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NOTR - Trump & Colossians Chapter Three - 10.13.16


Chris discusses the controversy surrounding Trump's comments from years ago in light of Paul's letter to the Colossian Church of the first century.   All would agree that what has been called Trump's locker-room banter is both shameful and inexcusable.  Yet as Christians, this should be seen within the full context of Scripture.  Paul's admonition to the early church reveals that immature believers can be guilty of similar behavior and are in need of a more mature level of repentance.  Whether or not a person is a true convert cannot always be known; yet the Scriptures are clear that all who name the name of Christ should depart from iniquity (2 Timothy 2:19). 

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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 chron 7:14

So the pre-requisitie for this to happen is repentance. But what would it take right now for most Christians in America to do so? How do we see this happening without the type of severity of chastening and judgement that was required of old. God's mercy prevailed and, as we can see in the Bible, will ultimately always prevail... in New Testament periods as well as old covenant times. But he has always required first that the nations turn back to God.

In order for this to occur, the majority of Christians will have to pull their heads out of the sand and understand what is going on around them. Most of them are drinking the social justice, one world religion "kool aide" in their purpose driven churches. It is not unlike what is spoken of here:

4Moreover thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the LORD; Shall they fall, and not arise? shall he turn away, and not return?

5Why then is this people of Jerusalem slidden back by a perpetual backsliding? they hold fast deceit, they refuse to return.

6I hearkened and heard, but they spake not aright: no man repented him of his wickedness, saying, What have I done? every one turned to his course, as the horse rusheth into the battle.

7Yea, the stork in the heaven knoweth her appointed times; and the turtle and the crane and the swallow observe the time of their coming; but my people know not the judgment of the LORD.

8How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.

9The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have rejected the word of the LORD; and what wisdom is in them?

10Therefore will I give their wives unto others, and their fields to them that shall inherit them: for every one from the least even unto the greatest is given to covetousness, from the prophet even unto the priest every one dealeth falsely.

11For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.

12Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore shall they fall among them that fall: in the time of their visitation they shall be cast down, saith the LORD.

13I will surely consume them, saith the LORD: there shall be no grapes on the vine, nor figs on the fig tree, and the leaf shall fade; and the things that I have given them shall pass away from them. (Jer 8)

So, in light of that, how likely is repentance.... unless first comes great loss and chastisement in our nation? The Lord says he chastises his own (as indicated throughout the bible):

As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Rev 3:19 (and elsewhere)

While I do not believe we are "under God's wrath" if we are in Christ. But I do not think it likely that we will be spared any judgement or troubles at all. (But I do not equate God's wrath with sifting or Satan or persecution that comes from the world, and I don't believe the entire "tribulation period" or tribulation in general.. (2 different things) are the same as "God's Wrath".)

... These things I have spoken unto you, that in me you might have peace. In the world
you shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. ... John 16:33

Is it possible we are very near this time? How many people will be caught off guard and curse God in stead of repenting because they don't see it coming. They are "in darkness".

1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. (IThess 5)

Look up the word "chastise" in your KJV studies and see what comes up. It is an interesting study.

So, I think it will get worse before it get's better and that God's deliverance for our "nation" will come at a cost.. weather we continue to be a sovereign nation or not. And it is not by the force of our weapons or ballots that this tide will turn.

October 15, 2016 | Unregistered Commenterm1

According to the article at link below, Donald Trump was also educated by Jesuits. Looks like we are surrounded.


October 16, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterLK Wollett

If Trump is just a role-playing Jesuit, something I seriously considered early on, then he is a very good actor. I must confess , however, that his recent admission to the err of his ways seems to be a new display of character--something we've never seen in his opponent. At this point, we can only pray that he is sincere and pray for God's mercy on us. But don't forget your local government and representatives. A few checks and balances might still work in our favor.

October 25, 2016 | Unregistered Commenterm1

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